Deaths mount as fighting rages in Mogadishu

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Bombs, shelling rock Somali capital

By SALAD DUHUL, Associated Press Writer 43 minutes ago

Car bombs exploded in Somalia's capital Tuesday and fighting raged for a seventh straight day, with Ethiopian and Somali government troops making a final push to wipe out an insurgency ahead of a peace conference.

Several large shipments of food for the tens of thousands of people who have fled Mogadishu have been turned back because there was no clearance from the Somali government, aid workers and diplomats said. The government has demanded to inspect all aid deliveries despite the worst humanitarian crisis in the country's recent history.

Islamic insurgents clashed with Ethiopian troops backing Somali government forces, using mortars and rocket-propelled grenades against tanks and artillery positions in the north of the battle-scarred coastal city.

A car bomb exploded outside the Ambassador Hotel, which is used by government lawmakers, said Somali presidential spokesman Hussein Mohamoud Hussein. Seven people were killed, said eyewitness Abdu-Kadir Mohamud.

A suspected suicide car bombing injured three civilians outside an Ethiopian military base 18 miles from the capital, said resident Mayow Mohamed. Troops opened fire on the minibus as it sped toward the base, he said.

The last seven days of clashes have killed 358 people, including at least 29 civilians and 36 insurgents who died Tuesday, according to Somalia's Elman Human Rights Organization.

Bodies lay rotting on the streets for days — too dangerous to retrieve.

Most of the fighting was around front line positions and weary Mogadishu residents said it was not as fierce as in previous days.

"The sides have got tired so they need breathing space to replace their men and repair their damaged equipment," said Abdi Ahemd Shoma.

The latest fighting flared seven days ago after Ethiopian and Somali government troops made a final push to wipe out the insurgency, Western diplomatic and Somali government sources told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

Facing international pressure over the mounting death toll, the government and its Ethiopian appeared determined to bring order before a national reconciliation conference in June. Clan and warlord militia have also joined the fight against the Ethiopians and government forces.

A bid earlier this month to wipe out the insurgency left more than 1,000 people dead, many of them civilians.

More than 320,000 Somalis have fled the capital since February, streaming to squalid camps with little to eat and no shelter. Tens of thousands of others remain trapped by the fighting.

In a letter obtained by the AP on Tuesday, Somali Interior Minister Mohamed Mohamud Guled told the World Food Program that the government must inspect any goods being sent to Somalia.

Soldiers at a military checkpoint outside Mogadishu turned back a World Food Program shipment that would have benefited 32,000 people because the government had not given clearance, Graham Farmer, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for Somalia, said in an April 12 letter to Gedi.

In a letter to President Abdullahi Yusuf last week, U.S. Ambassador Michael Ranneberger called on the government to stop "halting distribution of food aid for unspecified inspections."

He also said at least one government-appointed regional governor "required payment for the transit of relief goods on top of payments already made to militia checkpoints. These practices are unacceptable and undermine the legitimacy of your government."

The letters were provided to the AP by an aid official who asked not to be named for fear of being fired.

Somalia's transitional government was formed in 2004 with U.N. help, but has struggled to extend its control over the country.

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Associated Press writers Elizabeth A. Kennedy and Mohamed Olad Hassan contributed to this report from Nairobi, Kenya.

The American, Israeli, and Palestinian Triangle

4/16/2007

Video link for Amb. Afif Safieh's Harvard Lecture

Video: The US used neutron weapons in the battle of the airport

This is four days old news, but for Arabic speaking people I have the video of the interview with former republican guards leader Saif Al-Din Al-Rawi.

Al-Rawi reveals in this interview all the hidden details about the Battle of Baghdad, details that blocked by western media.

Al-Rawi says that the US used Neutron and thermal weapons against Iraqi troops in the battle of the airport, but the Iraqis kept fighting until the last man and nobody survived the fight.

Some more details about the courageous Iraqi military fighters, very interesting to watch.

Watch the video here [Arabic]

Israeli soldiers use Palestinian youths as ‘human shield’ (with video)

IDF soldiers use Nablus youths as ‘human shield’

(Video) Peace activist films IDF soldiers ordering two Palestinian youths to stand in front of their vehicle to prevent locals from stoning it; military advocate general orders investigation into incident, commanding officer suspended

Ali Waked

Latest Update:

04.12.07, 23:52 / Israel News

VIDEO - Despite repeated promises by the Israel Defense Forces not to make use of Palestinian civilians as ‘human shields’ during its activity in the territories, troops operating in Nablus were filmed ordering two Palestinian youths to stand in front of their vehicle to protect it from stones thrown by locals.

Video: Research Journalism Initiative

The act, which was also in violation of a Supreme Court decision from 2005, was filmed by a foreign activist on Wednesday in Nablus’ Sheikh Munis neighborhood, where the soldiers encircled the home of al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades member Abed el-Qadr.

During the operation the IDF forces demolished the house, but it later turned out that el-Qadr was not on the premises.

Meanwhile, a number of Palestinian youths threw stones at an IDF Hummer that was securing the soldiers encircling the house. According to foreign peace activists at the scene, the soldiers then ordered two youths who happened to pass by to stand in front of the vehicle in order to stop the stone-throwing.

The peace activist who filmed the act told Ynet, “The soldier closest to me said they were only asking the youths to tell their friends to stop throwing stones.”

He said he eventually stopped filming so as not top upset the soldiers, but added that the incident continued for “several more minutes.”

The activist said this is the first time he had seen soldiers ordering Palestinians to serve as human shields for army vehicles, but added that in the past few months he had witnessed a number of incidents in which soldiers used Palestinian civilians during their activity.

Following the video’s publication on Ynet, Military Advocate General Avihai Mandelblit ordered an investigation into the incident, and Central Command chief Yair Naveh ordered the suspension of the commanding officer.

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04.12.07, 21:20

A very thin slice of earth

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Interview: Azmi Bishara

A very thin slice of earth

29 minutes

Head of the National Democratic Assembly political party, Azmi Bashara was born in Nazareth to Christian parents. He is a Palestinian and a citizen of Israel. He represents Israel's Palestinian minority in the Knesset. Bishara studies at Humboldt University in Germany, is head of the philosophy department at Bir Zeit University, and is senior researcher at the Van-Leer Institute in Jerusalem. He was one of the founders of the National Democratic Assembly, or Balad. He describes himself as a humanist, a democrat, a liberal, and a neo-nasserite. In this interview Bishara examines turning Israel into a state of all of its citizens, opposing the institutionalized inequality that exists now between Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel. Producer: Ed Sweed (2004)

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Azmi Bishara

Azmi Bishara is a Palestinian citizen of Israel and a member of the Knesset. He was born in Nazareth to a Christian family in 1956. He studied at Humboldt University in East Germany. He was senior lecturer and head of the Philosophy Department at Bir-Zeit University, and senior researcher at the Van-Leer Institute in Jerusalem. He is also a published novelist.

Bishara started his political activity in 1974 as chairman of the National Committee of Arab High-School Pupils. He was active in the establishment of the students committee and Arab campus organizations at Haifa University and the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He was also active in the Committee for the Protection of Lands, established in 1976, and against the Israeli occupation of the territories.

Bishara was one of the founders and heads the National Democratic Alliance (Balad), that ran in the elections to the 14th Knesset together with Hadash, and a member of the 14th Knesset. He defines himself as a humanist, democrat, liberal and Neo-Nasserite. He advocates turning the State of Israel into a state of all its citizens and the granting of cultural autonomy to the Arabs in Israel, and a bi-national solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem.

His brother, Marwan Bishara, also appears in this database of writers on the situation in Palestine/Israel.

Depending on availability of the US National Public Radio archives, you may be able to hear an interview with Azmi Bishara which was broadcast on US National Public Radio on 20 June 2001, on All Things Considered. The interview was about a visit that Bishara made to Syria, a visit that caused controversy in Israel and has led to his parliamentary immunity being removed, so that he could be placed on trial. This controversy led to the estabishment of an International Committee for the Protection of Azmi Bishara, comprised of politicians, intellectuals and academics from many countries around the world.

You may also be able to hear an interview with Azmi Bishara which was broadcast on US National Public Radio on 10 October 2000, on All Things Considered. The interview was about an attempt by Israeli Jews to burn down his home in Nazareth.

Iran: the war ahead

Politics

John Pilger

Published 16 April 2007

The sailors' ordeal was a diversion from the bigger danger. The US and UK identified their new enemy long ago and are preparing the propaganda for the war ahead.

The Israeli journalist Amira Hass describes the moment her mother, Hannah, was marched from a cattle train to the Nazi concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen. "They were sick and some were dying," she says. "Then my mother saw these German women looking at the prisoners, just looking. This image became very formative in my upbringing, this despicable 'looking from the side'."

It is time we in Britain stopped looking from the side. We are being led towards perhaps the most serious crisis in modern history as the Bush-Cheney-Blair "long war" edges closer to Iran for no reason other than that nation's independence from rapacious America. The safe delivery of the 15 British sailors into the hands of Rupert Murdoch and his rivals (with tales of their "ordeal" almost certainly authored by the Ministry of Defence - until it got the wind up) is both a farce and a distraction. The Bush administration, in secret connivance with Blair, has spent four years preparing for "Operation Iranian Freedom". Forty-five cruise missiles are primed to strike. According to Russia's leading strategic thinker General Leonid Ivashov: "Nuclear facilities will be secondary targets . . . at least 20 such facilities need to be destroyed. Combat nuclear weapons may be used. This will result in the radioactive contamination of all the Iranian territory, and beyond."

And yet there is a surreal silence in Britain, save for the noise of "news" in which our powerful broadcasters gesture cryptically at the obvious but dare not make sense of it, lest the one-way moral screen erected between us and the consequences of an imperial foreign policy collapse and the truth be revealed. John Bolton, formerly Bush's man at the United Nations, recently spelled out the truth: that the Bush-Cheney-Blair plan for the Middle East is "an agenda to maintain division and ethnic tension and the only way to finally capture and enslave a country that has historically thrown out its occupiers on every occasion". He was referring to Iraq, but he also meant Iran, which would be next. That is the news.

One million Iraqis fill the streets of Najaf demanding that Bush and Blair get out of their homeland - that is the news: not our nabbed sailor-spies, nor the political danse macabre of the pretenders to Blair's Duce delusions. Whether it is Gordon Brown, the paymaster of the Iraq bloodbath, or John Reid, who sent British troops to pointless deaths in Afghanistan, or any of the others who sat through cabinet meetings knowing that Blair and his acolytes were lying through their teeth, only mutual distrust separates them now. They knew about Blair's plotting with Bush. They knew about the fake 45-minute "warning". They knew about the fitting up of Iran as the next "enemy".

Declared Brown to the Daily Mail: "The days of Britain having to apo logise for its colonial history are over. We should celebrate much of our past rather than apologise for it." In Late Victorian Holocausts, the historian Mike Davis documents that as many as 21 million Indians died unnecessarily in famines criminally imposed by British colonial policies. Moreover, since the formal demise of that glorious imperium, declassified files make it clear that British governments have borne "significant responsibility" for the direct or indirect deaths of between 8.6 million and 13.5 million people throughout the world from military interventions and at the hands of regimes strongly supported by Britain. The historian Mark Curtis calls these victims "unpeople". Rejoice! said Margaret Thatcher. Celebrate! says Brown. Spot the difference.

Brown is no different from Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and the other warmongering Democrats he admires and who support an unprovoked attack on Iran and the subjugation of the Middle East to "our interests" - and Israel's, of course. Nothing has changed since the US and Britain destroyed Iran's democratic government in 1953 and installed Reza Shah Pahlavi, whose regime had "the highest rate of death penalties in the world, no valid system of civilian courts and a history of torture" that was "beyond belief" (Amnesty).

True carnage

Look behind the one-way moral screen and you will dis tinguish the Blairite elite by its loathing of real democracy. They used to be discreet about this, but no more. Two examples spring to mind. In 2004, Blair used the secretive "royal prerogative" to overturn a high court judgment that had restored the very principle of human rights set out in Magna Carta to the people of the Chagos Islands, a British colony in the Indian Ocean. There was no debate. As ruthless as any dictator, Blair dealt his coup de grâce with the lawless expulsion of the islanders from their homeland, now a US military base, from which Bush has bombed Iraq and Afghanistan and will bomb Iran.

In the second example, only the degree of suffering is dif ferent. Last October, the Lancet published research by Johns Hopkins University in the US and al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad which calculated that 655,000 Iraqis had died as a direct result of the Anglo-American invasion. Downing Street officials derided the study as "flawed". They were lying. In fact, the chief scientific adviser to the Ministry of Defence, Sir Roy Anderson, had backed the survey, describing its methods as "robust" and "close to best practice", and other government officials had secretly approved the "tried and tested way of measuring mortality in conflict zones". The figure for Iraqi deaths is now estimated at close to a million - carnage equivalent to that caused by the Anglo-American economic siege of Iraq in the 1990s, which produced the deaths of half a million infants under the age of five, verified by Unicef. That, too, was dismissed contemptuously by Blair.

"This Labour government, which includes Gordon Brown as much as it does Tony Blair," wrote Richard Horton, editor of the Lancet, "is party to a war crime of monstrous proportions. Yet our political consensus prevents any judicial or civil society response. Britain is paralysed by its own indifference."

Such is the scale of the crime and of our "looking from the side". According to the Observer of 8 April, the voters' "damning verdict" on the Blair regime is expressed by a majority who have "lost faith" in their government. No surprise there. Polls have long shown a widespread revulsion to Blair, demonstrated at the last general election, which produced the second lowest turnout since the franchise. No mention was made of the Observer's own contribution to this national loss of faith. Once celebrated as a bastion of liberalism that stood against Anthony Eden's lawless attack on Egypt in 1956, the new right-wing, lifestyle Observer enthusiastically backed Blair's lawless attack on Iraq, having helped lay the ground with major articles falsely linking Iraq with the 9/11 attacks - claims now regarded even by the Pentagon as fake.

As hysteria is again fabricated, for Iraq, read Iran. According to the former US treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, the Bush cabal decided to attack Iraq on "day one" of Bush's administration, long before 11 September 2001. The main reason was oil. O'Neill was shown a Pentagon document entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts", which outlined the carve-up of Iraq's oil wealth among the major Anglo-American companies. Under a law written by US and British officials, the Iraqi puppet regime is about to hand over the extraction of the largest concentration of oil on earth to Anglo-American companies.

Nothing like this piracy has happened before in the modern Middle East, where Opec has ensured that oil business is conducted between states. Across the Shatt al-Arab waterway is another prize: Iran's vast oilfields. Just as non existent weapons of mass destruction or facile concerns for democracy had nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq, so non-existent nuclear weapons have nothing to do with the coming American onslaught on Iran. Unlike Israel and the United States, Iran has abided by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, of which it was an original signatory, and has allowed routine inspections under its legal obligations. The International Atomic Energy Agency has never cited Iran for diverting its civilian programme to military use. For the past three years, IAEA inspectors have said they have been allowed to "go anywhere". The recent UN Security Council sanctions against Iran are the result of Washington's bribery.

Until recently, the British were unaware that their government was one of the world's most consistent abusers of human rights and backers of state terrorism. Few Britons knew that the Muslim Brotherhood, the forerunner of al-Qaeda, was sponsored by British intelligence as a means of systematically destroying secular Arab nationalism, or that MI6 recruited young British Muslims in the 1980s as part of a $4bn Anglo-American-backed jihad against the Soviet Union known as "Operation Cyclone". In 2001, few Britons knew that 3,000 innocent Afghan civilians were bombed to death as revenge for the attacks of 11 September. No Afghans brought down the twin towers, only citizens of Saudi Arabia, Britain's biggest arms client, which was not bombed. Thanks to Bush and Blair, awareness in Britain and all over the world has risen as never before. When home-grown terrorists struck London in July 2005, few doubted that the attack on Iraq had provoked the atrocity and that the bombs which killed 52 Londoners were, in effect, Blair's bombs.

In my experience, most people do not indulge the absurdity and cruelty of the "rules" of rampant power. They do not contort their morality and intellect to comply with double standards and the notion of approved evil, of worthy and unworthy victims. They would, if they knew, grieve for all the lives, families, careers, hopes and dreams destroyed by Blair and Bush. The sure evidence is the British public's wholehearted response to the 2004 tsunami, shaming that of the government.

Certainly, they would agree wholeheartedly with Robert H Jackson, chief of counsel for the United States at the Nuremberg trials of Nazi leaders at the end of the Second World War. "Crimes are crimes," he said, "whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."

As with Henry Kissinger and Donald Rumsfeld, who dare not travel to certain countries for fear of being prosecuted as war criminals, Blair as a private citizen may no longer be untouchable. On 20 March, Baltasar Garzón, the tenacious Spanish judge who pursued Augusto Pinochet, called for indictments against those responsible for "one of the most sordid and unjustifiable episodes in recent human history" - Iraq. Five days later, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, to which Britain is a signatory, said that Blair could one day face war-crimes charges.

These are critical changes in the way the sane world thinks - again, thanks to the Reich of Blair and Bush. However, we live in the most dangerous of times. On 6 April, Blair accused "elements of the Iranian regime" of "backing, financing, arming and supporting terrorism in Iraq". He offered no evidence, and the Ministry of Defence has none. This is the same Goebbels-like refrain with which he and his coterie, Gordon Brown included, brought an epic bloodletting to Iraq. How long will the rest of us continue looking from the side?

John Pilger's new film "The War on Democracy" will be previewed at the National Film Theatre, London SE1, on 11 May. http://www.bfi.org.uk/nft

http://www.johnpilger.com

John Pilger, renowned investigative journalist and documentary film-maker, is one of only two to have twice won British journalism's top award; his documentaries have won academy awards in both the UK and the US. In a New Statesman survey of the 50 heroes of our time, Pilger came fourth behind Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela. "John Pilger," wrote Harold Pinter, "unearths, with steely attention facts, the filthy truth. I salute him."
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Live: Ex-Gonzales aide testifies before Senate on firings

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Welcome To Inspection Point - Part 2

Israel has occupied the West Bank and Gaza for 39 years. In 1948, 900,000 Palestinians were expelled from present day Israel. Their 6 million descendants live in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza and the surrounding Arab States. An 8-12 meter high wall stretches 622km annexing 13.1% of the West Bank.

Seven students and a camera visited the West Bank for three weeks in June 2006. This is a glimpse of what they encountered...

Arab summit final statement dictated by Condoleezza Rice

A week ago Egyptian newspaper alshaab said that the reason behind Condoleezza Rice’s meeting with the foreign ministers of the so called “Moderate Arab” countries [Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and UAE] is prepare them [to do and not do] for upcoming Arab summit.

Among the (not to do) list are the following:

1- The final statement of the summit should not condemn or criticize Israel policies of in the occupied territories.

2- Not to issue any references to the civil war in Iraq, including condemnation of the American invasion of Iraq as a reason for this war, so not to cause further embarrassment to Bush administration.

To Do:

1- to pressure on President Bashir of Sudan to accept international demands in Darfur, and to consider a condemnation of the genocide in Sudan.

2- Pressure against Syria to stop supporting Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the Palestinian territories.

Interestingly is how Sudan and Syria are going to react on this.

If think that the whole final statement is a joke made by the newspaper then here is Qadafi in his interview on Al-Jazeera, explaining why he is not participating in this Arab summit and previous Arab summits.

Qadafi holding the last Arab summit in Cairo final statement in his hands saying:

The final statement was distributed on Arab leaders weeks before the summit even started, I have got my copy.

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Welcome To the Inspection Point

Israel has occupied the West Bank and Gaza for 39 years. In 1948, 900,000 Palestinians were expelled from present day Israel. Their 6 million descendants live in refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza and the surrounding Arab States. An 8-12 meter high wall stretches 622km annexing 13.1% of the West Bank.

Seven students and a camera visited the West Bank for three weeks in June 2006. This is a glimpse of what they encountered...

GOP Rep. Gary Miller's fishy land deals

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Video: John Bolton Humbled on BBC by Antiwar Iraqi, Brit

Video: American soldiers shooting civilians

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USAn: ...and feeling kind-of sick...
Absolutely incredible, absolutely incredible...

What we have here are TYPICAL AMERIKKKKKKKKAN THUGS....ARROGANT, FASCIST, RACIST, STOMACH-TURNINGLY VILE, THUGS - NOT HUMANS AT ALL, BUT MONSTERS. ABSOLUTE, NON-HUMAN, MONSTERS. As far as I'm concerned, THEY HAVE FORFEITED THEIR RIGHT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET.1

March 24, 2007
Resistant: The voices of imperial racism
Custer & company before the Little Bighorn.

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March 24, 2007
homero: ...
There is the joy of cooking; the joy of love; the joy of music. For many of our soldiers in Iraq it is the joy of killing. This is what the videos shows: the joy of it. These American boys are truly and really enjoying themselves. And sooner or latter these same boys are going to come home. They will be working in the Post Office, or as Police, or better still as prison guards. 3

March 24, 2007
GreyRaven: The American pantywaiste culture
Don’t feel bad. It’s just a couple of war criminals committing some war crimes that you’ve seen. You were able to watch it live on UTube. Isn’t that exciting? But it’s also sort of terrible isn’t it? Just to make you feel better though, I’d like to remind you that America is still the Greatest Country in the World.

So, come on, man. Who gives a shit? It’s just a couple of ragheads they're firing upon, isn’t it? Nobody cares about them fuckers. Just shoot them up and take the fuckers down. Nobody is going to miss them.

As it happened, there were just innocent civilians in those cars.

I sort of wonder what America would think if this had taken place in downtown L.A. Can you imagine how everyone would be crapping in their pants right now? They would be screaming holy shit, the hypocritical bastards.

As you sow so shall you reap, the saying goes. I wonder how America will deal with that which it shall reap. It will probably be really messy. We shall then see who the pantywaists really are. Some of the big talkers will fit right in, I'm sure.

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March 24, 2007
Not_An_American: Well one thing is for certain
They aren't what I would call professional soldiers...and I bet every one of them would have soiled their pants if they received some incoming. Pity a really good Iraqi sniper didn't off one of them to give them a taste of it.5

March 24, 2007
USAn: ...
They are all exactly like the young, ignorant, whitebread, suburban, republican, big SUV driving, young USAn males, currently filling all the in the bars on Carson street right now, watching basketball...

In the name of GOD I hate USAns! And hating my neighbors and everyone around me is not good for my health. Look at what happened to Prof. Tanya Reinhart, she was in fine health but died of a stroke at 62. She left Israel for good, disgusted with her own people last December, but the damage to her health had apparently already been done.6

March 24, 2007
lovepeace: ...
A sick war getting sicker.Despicable and mind boggling.7

March 24, 2007
Dante: ...
Circumstances don't make people --- they REVEAL THEM.8

March 24, 2007
unity: support your tropps
totaly sick

and deaf dumb and blind americans wonder why the world hates them

these sicko's will come home, totaly devoid of soul, totaly addicted to killing and totly devoid of whatever it was that made us humane - and this is what supporting your troops are all about - these 'men' cold bloded killers disquised as soilders were somebodies son. shameful shameful - and the murdered, nameless faceless demonised people were someone esle father, son, brother uncle or cousin, shot by illegal invaders - shame on you amrica shame 9

March 24, 2007
Dante: Hopefully
they won't come home, or if they do they'll be too dumbed down to even put a pair of boots and step outside. This is the history of the world, from year one and even before people have been killing each other and committing harrowing acts on those earmarked for them as the enemy.
It's not as if the U.S. invented wars and invasions, they're just as brutal as the Romans once were, only less skilled.10

March 24, 2007
lizbitchwitch: What a pathetic display
Truley disgusting! And this is hardly the first one of these sort of films I have seen either. And how lovely they thought they should film it too - to put in their little book of memories! Pathetic - truley pathetic. 11

March 24, 2007
johnhatch: Monstrosity
What a monstrous and evil nation America has become, or perhaps always was. Support the troops? No, put the dumb and demented criminals on trial, and the asshole 'commander-in-chief' also. I grieve for innocent Iraqi dead. There are no innocent Americans, just vicious and crazy ones. I no longer care about American deaths. If I were there, I would do the same as patriotic Iraqis. They have every right.12

March 24, 2007
worldist: State and corporate sponsored Insanity with a view to profit through mass slaughter by mental zombies.
It is gut wrenching to watch the madness unfold with glee by uniformed cowards safely protected behind concrete walls and a strategic high ground. If an equalizing force showed in the distance the cowards would flee in terror. They and their fly boy war crime buddies loaded with DU and phosphorus weapons to use on innocent Iraqi's going about their daily business or feebly trying to defend their homeland from murderous intruders are targeted with impunity. This type of inhuman activity was what the Nuremberg trials of Germany was about. They should all be hanged and all those responsible for putting them there.

Meanwhile let's get on with bringing about a sane and just world society for ALL humanity. Go to; worldsocialism.org13

March 24, 2007
tsullivan: WIth an army made up of moron jarheads...
with a collective IQ no greater than that of an amoeba, what more can you expect? These thugs live by the sword, and they should die by the sword - they deserve nothing better.14

March 24, 2007
tsullivan: Worldist #13
Meanwhile let's get on with bringing about a sane and just world society for ALL humanity. Go to; worldsocialism.org


I still haven't found anything on your site as to HOW this sane and just world society will come about. There's a little about what it will be like, more about what it won't be like, but NOTHING WHATSOEVER concerning how it will brought to fruition.15

March 24, 2007
free expression: War is hell
This shouldn't be shocking to anyone by this point -- even if you've only seen an honest war film like Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. No, obviously I'm not defending this, and yes, it's disgusting. Kubrick's film is apt, because, if the voices off camera can be believed, there was a "sniper round" that hit, I assume, before this shooting spree. The overwhelming force of the response, including, it seems, people who had nothing to do with the sniper fire, is how you win the battle and lose the war. Yes, this war is pointless (more than most), and we never should have been there. This is what happens, and we're doing it, stupidly, and for nothing.

What happens when these kids get back here? Another OKC?

We need to cut off funds for this insane war.16

March 24, 2007
Dude: ...
The video basically showed, cowardice in action and it's celebration.

The results of such action, always tragic.

One immediate, the other, more delayed.17

March 24, 2007
Dude: ...
"Circumstances don't make people --- they REVEAL THEM.8"

Agree 100%.

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March 24, 2007
kla: no peace time - no draft - just a turkey shoot "war" - really mean weapons – Goliath wins this one
People (thugs) are signing up while there exists (a rarity) neither peace-time nor a draft; thus killing is known to be available if not inevitable, and from a safe distance.

In any collection of humans, there is a fringe with a true warrior mentality, it seems. Perhaps a bit like the SS that went into the Ukraine and hanged people for no apparent reason, other than to set an example.
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March 24, 2007
Legolas_Greenleaf: Let's keep all these videos archived and documented
One day we will win and all these war criminals will be hanged.

Those two cars that entered into frame after 45 seconds were obviously not part of whatever was going on beforehand, they were target practice. This is (as usual) cut and dried war crimes. They're monsters and they need to die.

One day the US is going to attack the wrong country and the 300 to 1 casualty rate is going to be reversed.20

March 24, 2007
worldist: RE: #15 tsullivan: Worldist #13
I still haven't found anything on your site as to HOW this sane and just world society will come about. There's a little about what it will be like, more about what it won't be like, but NOTHING WHATSOEVER concerning how it will brought to fruition.15


Because Socialism is based on democratic order, it cannot be forced on people. Its necessary that an immense majority become clearly aware of the problem of retaining Capitalism and in so doing the alternative solution will clearly reveal itself. The working-class must organise and strive to abolish Capitalism and implement socialism themselves.

Because Capitalism is a dynamic destructive and progressive system we cannot predict at what point sufficient numbers of people will rise to the occasion and establish socialism. We cannot provide much insight as to the details of the Socialist society that will be democratically established at that time. It would be predicated on being able to predict the future and what those people engaged in the democratic process would be deciding what's best for themselves at that time.

Yes, we will be ridding ourselves of much of the destructive waste of energy expended that's required and demanded by Capitalism both human and natural. So much so that it will enable humans to sustainably live comfortably in a relaxed and constructive environment. Establishing Socialism will include eliminating the whole banking and money system including the military, courts, jails and monetary system. A tremendous amount of commuting locally and around the world will no longer be necessary. Producing goods locally will likely be encouraged to reduce unnecessary shipping and handling.

The more one researches the economics of Capitalism the more one realizes just how extremely destructive and wasteful it really is. Leading us to insurmountable problems that cannot be solved within the constraints of Capitalism. That has long served its use to humanity bringing about an industrially advanced age with technical achievements lately undreamed of in the past. But its destructive nature will bury humanity unless we make the effort and succeed in gaining rational democratic control of our destiny. Go to; www.worldsocialism.org21

March 24, 2007
tsullivan: Worldist #21
Because Socialism is based on democratic order, it cannot be forced on people. Its necessary that an immense majority become clearly aware of the problem of retaining Capitalism and in so doing the alternative solution will clearly reveal itself. The working-class must organise and strive to abolish Capitalism and implement socialism themselves.


More of the same old rhetoric. The working class must organise? The working class are far too busy trying to put food on the table and maintain a roof over their heads to 'organise'. Even if they were to organise, this 'let it happen' method of bringing about socialism is doomed to failure, because it assumes uniform motivations, desires and thoughts on the part of every member of the aforementioned 'working class' - right down to the abandonment of religious belief.


Because Capitalism is a dynamic destructive and progressive system we cannot predict at what point sufficient numbers of people will rise to the occasion and establish socialism.


Nor can you be sure that what arises in place of capitalism would be what you would consider socialism. Particularly as you don't have any plan of action to ensure that socialism is seen as the natural successor.


We cannot provide much insight as to the details of the Socialist society that will be democratically established at that time.


If, in essence, you have nothing concrete to say, then what on earth is the point of your World Socialist website and the endless advertising for the site?


It would be predicated on being able to predict the future and what those people engaged in the democratic process would be deciding what's best for themselves at that time.


Leaving it to chance (which is effectively what you are saying) will mean that the likelihood of socialism (as you see it) emerging as the new 'system' is as close as is possible to zero.


Yes, we will be ridding ourselves of much of the destructive waste of energy expended that's required and demanded by Capitalism both human and natural.


If you can't predict the future (and I have to admit, neither can I... yet) then how do you know that we will be ridding ourselves of anything of the sort?


So much so that it will enable humans to sustainably live comfortably in a relaxed and constructive environment. Establishing Socialism will include eliminating the whole banking and money system


And replacing it with? Barter? Community Currency? What?


including the military, courts, jails and monetary system.


Again, what will fill the void? Is that to be left to chance as well?


A tremendous amount of commuting locally and around the world will no longer be necessary.


Because it will just happen that way, or because?


Producing goods locally will likely be encouraged to reduce unnecessary shipping and handling.


"will likely"? You couldn't be more non-committal if you wanted to be.


The more one researches the economics of Capitalism the more one realizes just how extremely destructive and wasteful it really is.


For once, I can't argue with that statement.


That has long served its use to humanity bringing about an industrially advanced age with technical achievements lately undreamed of in the past. But its destructive nature will bury humanity unless we make the effort and succeed in gaining rational democratic control of our destiny.


With no blueprint, with no driving force NOTHING will happen.


Go to; [url=www.worldsocialism.org
]www.worldsocialism.org

And come away knowing just about as much as you did before you went there.22

March 24, 2007
greenIs: greenIs
American racism and genocide at its best. Killing defenseless people is fun for them. Iraqis were/are no threat to America. Are these Bush goons totally without a conscience? No wonder they painted insults on the bombs they dropped on sleeping families during "Shock & Awe." If not cheering massacres like this is "unpatriotic," then I guess I'm unpatriotic. I've heard that half or over half of the Iraqi population are children under 15. These are the victims of the war criminal sociopaths/psychopaths. God, gods, the superior being, or whatever it is that created us, values each Iraqi as much as Americans -- believe it or not (I know that's a concept that is difficult for Americans to grasp). Heroes? That's what they're treated as. What monsters. 23

March 24, 2007
Dante: ...
If you grew up playing violent video games and watching stupid yet very violent movies you'll cheer when you see this crap. I do hope those bastards get killed before they leave Iraq. 24

March 24, 2007
kla: Capitalisim - tsullivan
So the opposite of Capitalism is Socialism, as we understand Worldlist? No connection. Preaching socialism completely disregards the fact that the proposed system is to apply to humans and not ants or antelope, and even they have a heirarchy. Humans are not robots, right? Well, so far.

Dante - have you changed your tone since the Cindy article?25

March 24, 2007
paloentucu1: ...
It's the rule rather than the exception....Fucking murderers!!!!26

March 24, 2007
paloentucu1: ...
" NO unarmed people were hurt during the shooting "

" yeah bitch , you are fucking gone.."..."we fucked those people all to hell"

Cowards, stomach turning cowards what a bunch of "brave" fucking murderers !!!!... I say.27

March 24, 2007
hareli: This video needs to be Digg'd, Huffit'd, spread ALL OVER THE WEB
This video needs to be Digg'd, Huffit'd, spread ALL OVER THE WEB. This video needs the widest distribution. Enough! Support the Troops? F**k 'em. This is cold-blooded murder, and permission for this behavior comes from the highest levels in the DoD and Pentagon. These troops need to comes home NOW.28

March 24, 2007
kla: hareli - sure you want them home ?- well, will be needing Halliiburton camp guards (Blackwater contract).
At least in the US civil war, they were fair game on either side across the meadow, same weapons. This is the new sick society. "Civilized" has been sliding downhill for a 100 years.

But it has everything to do the ones (sponsors) that create the atmosphere for which this is consistent. It always comes down to leadership when sheep are involved.29

March 24, 2007
Angel Gabriel: Picking wings off flies
is an early childhood sign of a Sociopathic personality. Dumping employees with 15 years of faithful unblemished service to cut costs and increase profits for the short term budget and stocxkholders interest is the sign of a Corporate Sociopathic personality. Stay the course in an illegal and immoral War against an innocent and weaker opponnent is an Empirical Sociopathic policy.
Remaining silent and not forcing a halt to the mayhem, murder, rape pillaging and burning, child molestation, unflinching cold blooded team assault on Iraqi's, Palestinian's, Lebanese, or any other human being is the pinnacle of mass Societal Sociopathic behaviour.
How do you teach a Sociopath not to be a Sociopath? Isolation? If the rest of the world would hit the Sociopath's in the purse it would stop them in their tracks! Wouldn't it?
Freeze all U.S. funds in International banks, boycott ALL U.S. made products, don't fly on US made Boeing planes, don't buy US made Cars, don't use your VISA Am-Ex, Master Card, break your oil supply contracts and don't sell them oil. Starve the bastards to their knees. Isolate. 30

March 24, 2007
Angel Gabriel: If Move-on.org
is so cozy with Peolosi, maybe someone there would send her a link to this video so it might be shown in Congress. After all, supporting your troops is seeing them in action right?!!

Let them be shown their troops!31

March 24, 2007
Kahoneez: Racist clowns go home.
THEY are racist, cowardly murderers and hopefully they don't run over an IED and get blown up, because I would hate to see their brains spilled all over the beautiful soil of a once sovereign country, before being invaded by Imperialistic, racist, murdering filth.
COWARDS. 32

March 24, 2007
Romira: Romira
These are the wonderful heroic American troops that all the war criminal politions in Washington want to support. God bless them and their humanitarian work in Iraq.. NOT!!. :((33

March 24, 2007
wlh1us: civilians mabey, armed probably, shot dead forsure
war is hell, look what this gov started, back in my day vietnam vets were thought of the same way, just wait till these soldiers come back here with attitudes, im sure they all just love our commander in cheif and love the extended tours they have to live with, and the deaths of their fellow soldiers, and the visions of the sights they have to see everyday..... 34

March 25, 2007
wlh1us: hell will be overflowing
look at the way monsters play35

March 25, 2007
50GOODONES: "Video Shows U.S. Soldiers killing Iraqi Civilians"
U.S. Troops That have lost The war, any war by killing any civilians and living behind, presents and futures of The Looser Warcrimes. Lt. Kelly did it in Viet-Nam and , Etc.

Let me get it straight for those that are afraid of a minority of War criminals although This Video has to be investigated by Intelligence.

Since Viet-Nam, I was there and Thanks to God I did not have to shoot my M-16 Rifle at anyone. I was assign 3 different Cities to Exchange repai parts and although dusters patrolled some spots in The Roads, no one ever Shot any of Us, But off course that they shot us with motors at The compound and may have killed one of Us, also The Viet-Cong blew up one of our Amo-Dumps like a Volcano that wants to meet with The Sun about a mile off our compound and killed several of our Viet-Namese Soldiers. (declassified) The Amo-Dump blew for 7 days and nights slowly winding down.

Any way do not be afraid of War criminals, Those that get away with murder are ussually counselled and suffer the rest of their life from Trauma.

Also do not be afraid of War criminals because there are more of Us than there are of Them. They can not kill us all so they have to Hide and compromise.

Since Viet-Nam there have been several graduations at West Point and other Armed forces institutions. There are millions and millions of Us that condem war crimes.

Our code of Conduct, War Rules of Engagement, Trades of Leadership never teach us to loose The War by killing The Innocent. That includes suspects and all civilians and especially Women and Children.

I have herd of poison minds by War drugs and Savege War crimes like "The ICH Video". But thank God i have never had to witness them. The Viet-Cong were The Worse ever at killing, Raping, intimidating and living behind the Pol-Pot Campuchia (Cambodia experience). Hundreds of Millions have been killed in The last 100 years of imperfect and disbalanced fulfillment of Prophecy, Hope that The near future brings a more peacefull co-existing future.

Thank you for your time and I hope Washington, D.C., of YHWH gets a hold of my comments and act against any and all war criminals. Then again I do not beleive that 4 generals and 9 officers conspired to assessinate the Young football player, butsome deranged ally surely did.
If we were to search The truth about The 4 generals and most of those officers, The Mind reading computer of the future would probably find them not guilty of conspiracy against The Youg football player HERO. My Condolenses to all that loved Him and May our Mighty GOG have Him In His (GOD's) GLORY> Mt.17:1-8, GOD's Children never Die and are in every place and never ending.

See you and thanks for the chance to comment.

'One World Nation Under God, but First Prophecy'.
We need to press towards world peace and make The World better off by eliminating World Ghetto and Wars. We Need Rich Nations and Well OFF Persons co-existing in peace. We must press to cahnge world constitutions as we roll in prophecy so we can preach and teach The kingdoms of our GOD to The great harvest of The World, if not they will be raptured less educated and ignorant to my words, if they never here of God's Dreams $ Visions of revelations for a Perfected Earth Millennium Under Christ Jesus. Webster dictionary. Millenium: A spand of a thousand years under the Rule of The Greatest Angel, Man human God Angel taht have ever exposed The life forms that are loose upon our earth universe.
WE MUST CHANGE THE CONSTITUTIONS THROUGH OUR PRESIDENTS< CONGRESS< SENATE< SUPREME COURTS< ETC., But beginning with ourselfs by becoming a walking rock church filled with knowledge and truth. Matthew 5:18, Matthew 24:14, Matthew 28:16-20, Revelation 1:1-5-7. 2 Tim. 3:16,17, John 8:32.

Rapture is near, just as soon as Prophecy fills The moment or Ends The Events.
Mt.24:26-33. Denie GOD and you denie your self (equivalent of starving to death)....

50 GOODONES....
March 24th, 2007 Saturday 8:34 P.M. EST.

P.S. The Government of France have declssified 100,000 thousand New UFO documents (historic)
GO TO http://www.cnes.fr, If you give search a chance, you will find an English selection.36

March 25, 2007
Ironhead: The Few The Proud, The Marines..." Bad Boys, Bad Boys, Whatch Gonna Do When They Come For You
Yes, then they will be awarded medals for their uncommon valor and heroism, exhibiting the raw courage to kill unarmed civilians, oops I meant 'insurgents'.

"When you got 'em by the balls, hearts and minds will follow..."

Ah, the Power, the Glory...The American Way, "Peace through superior firepower" (over an un-armed 'enemy').

Air superiority (over a country without an airforce!)

Full Spectrum Dominance.

"Here, Bitch, take that!"

Great stories for the children, feel the Pride, show 'em your medals of honor...

Then one day, many years later they found him hanging from a tree...jumped off a ladder.

...to the Proud, the Brave... by your acts of uncommon cowardice and callous disregard for the principles of Humanity, the Geneva Conventions, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you have SPIT ON THE SACRIFICES OF THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN WWII TO END FASCISM. WWII WAS FOUGHT TO STOP ILLEGAL INVASIONS AND UNLAWFUL OCCUPATIONS AND TO FREE THOSE COUNTRIES OCCUPIED.

Your day will come. 37

March 25, 2007
50GOODONES: "VIDEO SHOWS U.S. SOLDIERS KILLING UNARMED IRAQI CIVILIANS"
I do Apologize for mispelled words.
50 GOOD ONES: Should read, GOD and not GOG. although we co-exist with Gog, but as they come of age, they may awaken to GOD ALL MIGHTY. We either co-exist or perish.

I am a Dav*" Psalm 33:12, Revelation 5:5, "I Shall Return To Be Seen".
"In God We Trust", "*GOD IS....LOVE, MAGICAL, ETC..*".
RRR. (*"DAV*") Disabled American Veterans.
Peace Thru Strenth, Trade, Truth and The Persuit of happines.

GOD brings The Rains for The Good and The Bad should learn to also be thankfull and heal from The wounds of imperfection. By The way it is raining here in Hialeah 6:00 P.M. Rains and gentle winds.

Any comments for me, please treat me as I would treat you. LIFESAVERS.

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March 25, 2007
PC Fong: Hard day at the local store! Buying groceries was never so risky in the "f$#%!n'" USA!!!
I've blogged this at http://pc-fong.spaces.live.com with an approximate transcript:-

"'You beaut! ....get that f....r off! (rocket grenade) ......I let that f....r off, dude ......he got thirty rounds!" "Cease fire, cease fire!" "Waa-hoooo!" "...(Laughing) ...we f....d those people ......all that shit down there!....." "I shot that dude in the white car ......and he ran into the f....n' building! ....... "You see those two people .....I f.....g ripped them!" (Laughing)...more, more ......did you get that on recorder - or what?"
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March 25, 2007
PC Fong: So much for the "Iwo Jima" company of US 1/5 Marines!
The courage and sense of duty of their fellow Marines on Iwo Jima breathes dignity into their own acts, even 55 years down the road........." http://www.geocities.com/sniper1_5/IwoJima.html

Letters from Iwo Jima (2006) "...The main characters all have an interesting story to tell. But in the end the message is clear. War is futile..." http://iwojimathemovie.warnerbros.com/lettersofiwojima/framework/framework.html

Quote from 1/5 Marines website(?): ....The Vietnam War was not a Movie. It was not a 'Conflict'. It was not a game or a form of entertainment. Vietnam was a war. Real men fought it, real men bled and real men died in it. This site is to Honor those men...... http://www.geocities.com/sniper1_5/Notice.html - http://www.usmclinks.com/ - http://www.geocities.com/sniper1_5/
1st Battalion 5th Marines (1/5) is an infantry battalion in the United States Marine Corps based out of Camp Pendleton, California consisting of approximately 800 Marines and Sailors. They fall under the command of the 5th Marine Regiment and the 1st Marine Division. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usmc/1-5.htm

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March 25, 2007
gakabani: ...
Americans are today what Germans were during Nazi Germany. The so called army of the US has become simply a mercenary army for the oil industry.
What you see here is the essence of the so called US army. Do you think anyone cares in the USA? I think not. They are sleeping. 41

March 25, 2007
PC Fong: An exciting day at the office......killing "gooks"
Some more of the "glorious history" of the 1/5 Marines http://www.vietnamheroes.com/photoalbums.htm42

March 25, 2007
Dante: KLA
No I haven't changed my tone KLA, I understand the causes and the reasons, but I don't look forward to having those creeps driving around here or carrying guns, coming to my house to repair something, or just having them around at all. How is anyone who behaves like those beasts going to settle down into an ordinary life once they come back to the U.S.? Isn't enough crime around here as it is? So what can we expect when the boys return home? 43

March 25, 2007
cat48: Why I don't support them
As I was driving out of town today about 6 military vehicles passed the opposite way.
They were all suited up. I felt like flipping them off. If I had seen this earlier
today I probably would have. (Plus, I can't figure out why they were out here in nowhere
land).44

March 25, 2007
Fatima: now i know , stupid is as stupid does.
people wonder why other countrys hate usa, just look at the video, and you will understand.
Those men think they can kill, people cause they wear a unform, NOT.THSES MAN IF YOU CAN CALL THEM THAT ACT LIKE LITTLE BOYS PLAYING WAR
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March 25, 2007
NguyenKha: Simply Animals! The GIs are simply animals.
Every where They come they do the same thing. They murder innocent people like playing sport.
Like playing PC games. They are just animals.
They did the same thing in My Lai Viet Nam. They do the same thing again now in Iraq.
And they all laugh.
Yeah.. They still claim they are decent people.. decent my ass!!!
Such thick face.. They all have thick face.
Sicked. They are sicked. America is a sicked country.
The land of criminals, terrorists and hypocrites.period.

Nguyen Kha

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March 25, 2007
ChavezResistance: Pass this on!
If every one of you on this board who is disgusted with this passes the link to this on - it will get known. Target middle America put the link on boards about sport, driving SUVs, whatever, SOME people there will have a conscience, and if we can enlighten some then it is a job well done, those Iraqi people slaughtered for these boy's amusement may not have died in vain. Do it now - find a message boarsd somewhere and post the link, then do it again every day for the rest of the week. Channel your rage into action. 47

March 25, 2007
buthaina: American Heroes
These are the heroes that American People support !! You may have noticed that the US killers are standing on a roof of an ordinary Iraqi house. I wonder what happened to the people of that house before your killers could seize the roof.48

March 25, 2007
buthaina: Your terrorists
When these US terrorists (what do you call those who travel thousands of miles to other countries to kill innocent people whom they even do not know, just for the kick of killing and because they are hired for this duty by the peopele-elected US government)come home dead, they will be called "fallen heroes" and they will be wrapped in US flag which will be presented to the greived family in a solemn ceremony. Moreover, this assassin people-elected government passed a law where anyone who does not support the killing would be considered unpatriotic! So American patriots go on support your terrorists.49

March 25, 2007
jerrygates7: jerry gates ; Get thes guys out of there, now
Tom Feely contributes this film of United States soldiers killing a man in cold blood as he attempts to flee "turkey shooters" picking off civilians from behind a concrete wall.

Tom Feely wants this film distributed among the websites participating in the anti-war movement as proof positive of what the United States is funding in Iraq by the passage of a bill that contributes over 100 billion dollars to pay the salaries of these soldiers who have become addicted to murder. We , as citizens of the United States, are paying these murderers to enjoy killing innocent ,unarmed civilians. The weight of this shame is crushing any resolve among war opponents to refrain from violence in mitigating this heinous crime against humanity.

Nothing has worked in the anti-war community's efforts to stem the flow of innocent blood in the streets of Iraq. We call for restraint and negotiation, they vote to fund the slaughter of Iraqi citizens by diseased, reprobate minded lunatics. This is the State of The Nation, and a more dire straight there has never been.

"This war will be fought for 20, 30 or 40 years" are the words of the late Dick Cheney. Before his passing ,Dick Cheney distinguished himself as being an advocate of protracted warfare in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Lebanon, and Syria as a tool of subjugating the planet to the death squads of United States mercinary forces and the back seated U.S. military. Cheney's legacy is one of false pride, false religion , and falsehood for profit. Lies, lies, lies will be the title of the biography of this war mongering capitalist. Whatever good he has done in behalf of his nation will be overshadowed by his complicity in the erasure of human rights and his disrepect for human life in his inexorable march for United States hedgmony in the world.

Tom Feely , by now, has seen as much war and lies as any man can stand. A war initiated in deciet , perpetuated in cowardice, prosecuted in insanity ,and fought tooth and nail by every peaceful mind on the planet has created a breach in the government of the United States through which a 757 jetliner can fly .

Escape to foriegn soil and hiding behind well paid mercinaries is the fate of those who have manufactured the war in Iraq,produced it's products, and reaped huge profits for their constituents . What care have they for the United States , they will be long gone as the mother of all blowbacks hits the fans of the planet and returns to the shores of the the United States
as the regurgitated blood of a sucking chest wound, inflicted as a malicious and evil intentioned bid for supremacy.

What healing and forgiveness can occur if war is perpetuated by those unable to summon reason and wisdom? Wherein can compassion and love work their miracle if no place is given them as tools of peace? Who will lead the march of peace if all who are for peace are labeled as heretics and enemies of the United States and Isreal?Why have fear and greed replaced charity and faith in the once fortuitous House of representatives. When will the voice of the American people rise above the special interests of armaments contractors and AIPAC lobbiests?

The above questions need answers, not irresponsible side stepping and half truths if confidence in the United States population and their government is to be restored in the world community. It must be recognised that this disastrous course of violent overthrow of a nation will leave the United States weakened to the point of collapse and contribute to economic instability with no friends to turn to. Who would bail out a violent and selfish pair such as the United States and Isreal if a calamity would strike and leave us weak?

Tom Feely's "witness To A War Crime" is a frank indightment of the prosecutors of the war in Iraq as cold blooded assasins of a nation and it's people for no other reason than to enslave the population of this country in the name of the very same democracy which so agregiously fails the nation from which it hails.

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March 25, 2007
kla: new defintions needed:
elite=perverted slobs, war=turkey shoot, partisanen=insurgents, soldiers=thugs, patriot=idiot, security=scam, heroic=con, honor=long gone.

Stronger words needed: atrocities plus, hideous plus.

Jerry Gates - You focus is on Iraq. Is Afghanistan in principle any different? Two years older. Started on same type of lies. Both about oil business. Neither is a war, would you not agree? If the "bad guys" are any bader, is it only due to good propaganda?51

March 25, 2007
DJ Dazzy D: The soldier "Doc" posted this video at Live Leek and left comments about it.
Go to http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b83_1173818870 Look for comments by Tyer82 the video poster. It was 1st posted on March 13.

I will repost 4 of his comments below.

I shot the video! The white car had 4-5 males with 3 AK's and 1 RPG left on the floor board. The other cars were trying to make their way up the street to the house at the end so they could become a get away car. We had proir knowledge of their arrival from a relay from the "eye in the sky". Notice how no chicks, kids or spectators are there! So get fucked you hajji lover.

If you look at who posted the video and my name they are the same. It was Aug 22 2005. I was there, I was the Corpsman who video taped it. Also when we went to the parket after the fight there were 3 males I shot 2 alive and I refused to treat them. I also Shot the male in the white durka durka in the street. The whole video is about 25-35 minutes long, it shows all the "clean up" part and our brass checking to ensure we didnt do anything illegal. So I tried to place the good parts in. And the yelling is cause we are having a good time. Killing "bad guys" is fucking awsome, what a reward to look through your ACOG and see your rounds impact flesh. Fuck yeah!

Well I do feel like dork for arguing on the "interweb" but I do feel great. I like shooting people. But fuck I didnt know that until I went there and did it. Last I checked the radical muslims started this fucked up game of tag. Dont be pissed if we hit harder.

yes yes yes, im a huge pos. dont care, i know what I did and thats all that matters. I dont give two shits about any other country than the US. If we have to walk over radical muslims to get what we need, so be it. And I must have been hallucinating cause the fuckin middle east was a shit hole way before we got to it. You turds cant even stop fighting between tribes. Holy shit, its like two different church's fightin about who loves god more. Maybe stopping and figuring a way to make a sewer system and potable water could be higher up on the plans, but dont worry America and its allies will do that for ya too. Oh yeah Skunt tag yer it bitch.52

March 25, 2007
yawarbaig: So what's next??
The video is a cause even for despair. The comments are a sign of hope. I am not American. But I can say that when there is a nation where people are willing to criticize what needs to be criticized, then there is still hope. The big question of course is about making this happen. Stopping this ridiculous war. As long as the feeling remains in these comments and does not hit the street and polling booths, nothing will happen. I was listening to Obama's speech at AIPAC and had great trouble keeping the bile down. His opponent is not much better. If either of them is the future successor of the vegetable who is currently in the house on the hill, there is not much hope as I can see. As long as America remains enslaved to the agenda of others, it will continue to do totally stupid things like the war on Iraq. Or the even more dumb war on Iran that is being planned. Tell me when will it be that Americans start thinking for and about America and stop sacrificing themselves, their money, their good name and their honor (the word still exists, you know!!) for the sake of propping up a totally deranged, demented and despicable regime. As the old proverb says, "A man is known by the friends he keeps." America is known by its friends, all of whom seem to be dictators, oppressors and gangsters. The choice is yours........you, the ordinary American. Do you choose to pretend to be powerless and restrict your anger to the internet? Or do you have the courage to accept your power and the responsibility that goes with it and show the world that you have it in you to be true leaders to the world? Which one??53

March 25, 2007
DJ Dazzy D: Link with comments
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b83_1173818870&c=154

March 25, 2007
lizbitchwitch: Kla
"People (thugs) are signing up while there exists (a rarity) neither peace-time nor a draft; thus killing is known to be available if not inevitable, and from a safe distance."

That was the mistake the government made during the vietnam war - they instituted a draft which caused an uprising. Typical ameircans - unconcerned with wars unless they get the call to go to one - or unless they like doing the killing - then they volunteer.

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March 25, 2007
PC Fong: To "DJ Dazzy D" - re Link with comments......
"...DJ Dazzy D: The soldier "Doc" posted this video at Live Leek and left comments about it.
Go to http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b83_1173818870 Look for comments by Tyer82 the video poster. It was 1st posted on March 13...."

Thanks, DJ. I saw comments posted by " Tyer82 " at pp. 2,3,4,5,6,12,13,14,15,16,17,20.

Of all his tripe, at leat he admitted that 1/5 Marines record was worse in Vietnam (my older Vietnamese friends called it "the American war"! - see my earlier link re pics). It seems that they understand words like "massacre" and "atrocity" but are in complete denial about themselves and their own actions!?!?

Also see
Falluja massacre Added: Nov 23 2006 In: News By: ssemino http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39479c5aff and The US Army's 2/3 FA colts battle insurgents in Adhamiwa, Iraq. Added: Mar 24 2007 In: News By: Dronetek http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=75e_1174792380


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March 25, 2007
almaentity: AWOL is the only support from me.
I don't support the troops. They are murderers. I support the troops who refuse to be murderers. I do NOT support the troops who "do their jobs". PERIOD!57

March 26, 2007
peggy for peace: Horrifying....
This video sickened me. What kind of monsters have we created? We invade a sovereign nation and then do what we can to destroy it, believing that the people who live there and are trying to protect their homes and neighborhoods deserve to be wiped off the earth?! We must support people like Lt Ehren Watada and others who understand that what is happening in our natme is illegal and immoral. What will these soldiers be like when they return home? Will we be reading about them going berserk, as we read about Vietnam vets? I think it is highly likely. The ones who have a soul and conscience are sometimes turning to suicide... What a mess Georgie has brought about.58

March 26, 2007
Zipperhead67: Smile when you hear a 'BOOM!'
that will be the sound of another American losing some limbs for King George and Prince Dick. What's the total now? 20,000? 30,000 amputees out of the 50,000 wounded? I feel all Iraqis are entitled to attack US troops, that is the right of an indigenous peoples to repel foreign invaders. So they planted IEDs? Nothing wrong with that at all in my book as long as their target was military.

Tyer82 would do well to remember that he is a foreign invader in a soveriegn nation

The US unfortunately is very good at killing people who defend their countries, whilst managing to lose the war anyway!59

March 26, 2007
zelda253: What should I tell them?
I submitted this video to gather.com and I got back comments that they were fending off a sniper, (supposedly mentioned at beginning) and the cars were probably full of reinfocements. How can I prove to them that they were shooting at civilians?

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=28147497694006760

March 26, 2007
NguyenKha: They already did right inside the USA!!!
GreyRaven: The American pantywaiste culture !!!

Thay already did right inside their own society.
Sean Bell- NY was shot, Nguyen Thi Bich Cau, San Jose,CA was shot...

Yes, indeed, The American pantywaiste culture

Nguyen Kha
61

March 26, 2007
worldist: ..RE: zelda253: What should I tell them?
The US military, mercenaries and their accomplices are the invading armed intruders in Iraq committing war crimes and genocide against the people of Iraq. The Iraqi's are innocent of any wrong doing and are fully and legally entitled to carry whatever weapons they can get their hands on to defend their people, homeland and the resources of Iraq from brutal ignorant international thugs. They are innocent victims, the only ones entitled to carry weapons and kill intruders. Just imagine some gun wielding retarded thugs coming into your home intent on stealing your valuables and killing you if you resist. Wouldn't you and friends be entitled to use deadly force against them? Of course you would be so entitled as would your friends and the police if available. Koffe Anon of the UN clearly stated the invasion was illegal and according to the Nuremberg trials of WWII its the worst war crime of all. The perpetrators and their superiors should all hang!62

March 26, 2007
worldist: RE #22 tsullivan: Worldist #21
Because the general interpretation commonly understood about socialism made no sense to me from the time I was about 14 years old I tried to find out exactly what it was. It wasn't until I was about 30 years old and after having gained considerable experience and knowledge about the world that fortunately by chance I happened across it. To make it easier for others I post the link for their information.

I leave the link to the website of the World Socialist Movement for those who sincerely are interested in learning first hand about Socialism from Socialists that have maintained their sound scientific analysis of Capitalist society and the solution to the problems facing humanity worldwide. The Socialist Party and its Companion parties initially formed in 1904 and the founding members in England of which discussed socialism in depth with Karl Marx before he died and was buried in England. Because it does take considerable effort on the part of the student to learn the main connecting specialties of science to get a sound understanding of evolution. So too does it require an in-depth view and research of society and economics to gain an understanding of Socialism's analysis of Capitalism from a materialist perspective. This discussion board is not suited to the needs of full debate on the subject to do it justice. Nor have I the time to spend going over all the different facets when there is a whole history of periodicals available free, on-line and people willing to carry on reasonable critical debate on any aspect of the subject that you want cleared up at the site, I most always post a link to. www.worldsocialism.org63

March 26, 2007
lordterror: ...
Does it appear that civilians were killed? Maybe. The film doesn't show what caused the soldier to start firing in the first place. And as to the fact that they seem to be enjoying killing, who wouldn't be proud of a job well done. that's what a soldier is there to do, kill people. soldiers are not policemen, and they shouldn't be judged as if they are. thats why we have a police force to protect the civilian populace and not soldiers. They carry bigger gun, not to mentgion explosives. When soldiers go in to an area it to kill, either by attacking or by defending. either way the result is the same. People die on both sides. one last thought, if you live in a war zone you have to be aware of you surroundings. driving thru a fiire fight is not a wise thing to do.64

March 26, 2007
kla: lizbitchwitch: draft
Exactly right. The scam for this one is even much better understood (than Vietnam). A draft would cause an explosion of mothers and draft-age people. Is it not a shame that it has to take such an incentive?65

March 26, 2007
kla: I sort of wonder what America would think if this had taken place in downtown L.A.
Probably wouldn't care. Just a bunch of "minorities" having it out.

Might cause a stir in Buffalo, NY, or such.66

March 26, 2007
Not_An_American: @lordterror
The articles of engagement specifcally state that targeting of civilians is a war crime...if there is no further incoming, there is no reason to continue outgoing fire...troops who continue to send outgoing have lost their fire discipline, not that the US forces ever had much to begin with.

I can only hope that one day a foreign power inflicts a similar series of circumstances on you personally so that you can experience it all first hand from the Iraqi viewpoint.67

March 26, 2007
PC Fong: To "kla" - Botched L.A bank heist turns into bloody shootout ; AND "zelda253" - Open crime forum
#66 - Quote kla: "...I sort of wonder what America would think if this had taken place in downtown L.A."

It did, kla, 10 years ago! http://www.cnn.com/US/9702/28/shootout.update/


#60 - Quote zelda253: "...What should I tell them...?" strange how some can filter things out if they don't want to know or hear ....partly denial and partly refusal ...... but they are denying their own humanity and refusing to accept the results of their own actions. That is, they are afraid of "the TRUTH" .....or, more to the point, they are to weak or fearful to do anything about it. I got the video posted on a national media website but it only got a single response ....the rest completely ignored it and prattled on about relatively minor or insignificant incidents http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/garyhughes/index.php/theaustralian/comments/open_crime_forum1/P20/ - by comparison, you have done well!68

March 26, 2007
kla: PC Fong
"...I sort of wonder what America would think if this had taken place in downtown L.A."

was due to ARVY. My comment was that they would not care in the US and case you cite proves it.69

March 26, 2007
Dante: @Zelda 253
Haven't you been watching the news? Even the craven government controlled TV channels and press report about the many, MANY abuses the troops are committing in Iraq. Rape, murder, home invasion. Just search the past articles ICH has offered and offers almost daily. I can't believe that you can't think of anything to tell the ones playing Pollyana regarding the atrocities this government commits and has committed almost since day one, since 1772.
Let's stop playing disingenous, Ok, 'Zelda'?70

March 26, 2007
tsullivan: Worldist #63
I leave the link to the website of the World Socialist Movement for those who sincerely are interested in learning first hand about Socialism from Socialists


As I (and others) have said, there is precious little on your site to indicate what world socialism is, but lots about what it is not.


that have maintained their sound scientific analysis of Capitalist society and the solution to the problems facing humanity worldwide.


Sound scientific analysis, or psuedo-scientific analysis? Where are the empirical proofs? Given that your theory has yet to be tested for soundness, how can you make this claim?


The Socialist Party and its Companion parties initially formed in 1904 and the founding members in England of which discussed socialism in depth with Karl Marx before he died and was buried in England. Because it does take considerable effort on the part of the student to learn the main connecting specialties of science to get a sound understanding of evolution.

Sorry, Bill, but this sounds like you are just being patronising. For what it is worth, at the age of 14 I was already reading the Communist Manifesto, Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, Das Kapital and a myriad of other works by Marx or Engels - in addition to works by Hegel, Paine, John Stuart Mill and others. While I agree with much of the analysis presented by Marx and Engels, I am not so foolish as to ascribe to it either the status of religious dogma or scientific fact.


So too does it require an in-depth view and research of society and economics to gain an understanding of Socialism's analysis of Capitalism from a materialist perspective. This discussion board is not suited to the needs of full debate on the subject to do it justice. Nor have I the time to spend going over all the different facets when there is a whole history of periodicals available free, on-line and people willing to carry on reasonable critical debate on any aspect of the subject that you want cleared up

In other words, you can't answer my critique.


at the site, I most always post a link to.

Well, there's one fact I won't dispute.71

March 26, 2007
kla: Dante
Is it true, MSM reports this stuff?72

March 26, 2007
worldist: Reply to #71
Socialism is the science of understanding society from a materialist (scientific, evolutionary) perspective. To the point of recognizing the cause and effect nature of human energy expended in changing social/material conditions within one's immediate surroundings and historically worldwide. Leading to a natural solution of the problems confronting the individual and the whole of human society.

Until the working-class of the world become consciously aware of their class interests within World Capitalism and make a democratic, concerted effort by the immense majority to establish common ownership of the means and instruments of producing the needs of humanity. Organized to establish a free money-less production solely for USE free economy worldwide. Socialism/Communism (meaning the same thing) remains an idea coming of age at which point therell be no power greater. The need for it grows as each day passes and the necessary awareness of the contradictions of Capitalism become more glaring with its brutal destructive nature revealing itself.

Don't just stop at the introductory pages of the posted link, dig into it in-depth there's over a hundred years of evidence based analytical writing to consider. www.worldsocialism.org

For the constructive sanity and peace of mind within a plenty for all, sustainable worldwide democratic economy of genuine socialism.73

March 26, 2007

Democrat silenced on House floor for Katrina remark

Michael Roston

Published: Thursday March 22, 2007

After questioning a Republican Congressmember's "decency" for seeking to restrict housing reconstruction funds for Hurricane Katrina and Rita victims, a Democratic Representative was banned Wednesday from the U.S. House. By a vote of the House's membership, his speaking privileges were quickly restored, and the Member apologized.

But in an interview with RAW STORY, the staff of Democratic Congressman Gene Taylor of Mississippi stood by the sentiment of his remarks.

Taylor was barred from speaking on the House floor around noon on Wednesday while criticizing an amendment offered by Rep. Tom Price (R-GA).

"He wants to punish [towns affected by Katrina] for mistakes of the Bush administration," said Rep. Taylor. "Mr. Price, I wish you'd have the decency, if you're going to do that to the people of south Mississippi, that maybe you ought to come visit south Mississippi, and see what has happened, before you hold them to a standard you would never hold your own people to, and that you fail to hold the Bush administration to."

Price immediately asked that Taylor's remarks be stricken from the record, which the Chair at the time agreed to. Taylor was then barred from speaking on the House floor for the remainder of the day.

The remark came during debate on a bill granting housing assistance to low-income families affected by Hurricane Katrina. Rep. Price sponsored an amendment that would have barred states and localities from using community development block grants from the federal government as so-called "matching funds" in order to secure federal housing aid.

Price had tried to frame his amendment to the legislation in terms of fiscal responsibility.

"This amendment would ... maintain much needed local incentives to maximize federal assistance," he claimed.

He added, "This amendment would assist in providing that oversight and making sure that local and state individuals would have a greater responsibility, a greater incentive to make sure that programs and grants they receive, those monies are spent in a responsible way."

Courtney Littig, a spokeswoman for Rep. Taylor, echoed Taylor's criticisms of Price's amendment in an interview with RAW STORY.

"This is somebody with no idea what he's talking about, who hasn't visited Waveland, Mississippi," she said, referring to a town in Rep. Taylor's district. "He doesn't know that no one is living there, the City of Waveland has no tax base, they can't rely on regular police patrols, they're using volunteer firefighters, and there is no way for parts of south Mississippi to rebuild unless they're able to use community development block grants."

Littig explained that criticizing Price's "decency" on the House floor had gone too far according to the body's rules of procedure. But just as quickly as Taylor had been banned from speaking to the House for the day, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), succeeded in advancing a motion to restore Taylor's privileges, by a vote of 265-160.

She also repeated Taylor's apology to Price, that he should have used the word "courtesy" instead of "decency." But she also got in one last word on the Democratic Congressmember's behalf.

"He apologized to Price, and everybody lived happily ever after, except the people of southern Mississippi who are still living in travel trailers," Littig added.

Price's office did not respond to e-mailed questions about the incident on the House floor.

Rep. Taylor himself continues to live in his brother's home, as his house was also destroyed in Hurricane Katrina.

Ultimately, Price's amendment was defeated by a 98-333 vote. The Gulf Coast Hurricane Housing Recovery Act, which was originally sponsored by Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), was also successfully passed last night by a 302-125 vote, with 72 Republicans supporting the bill.

A transcript of Taylor's stricken remarks, as well as his apology, is included below this video clip from C-SPAN, which summarizes the exchange.

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Rep. Gene Taylor (D-MS): First, let me tell the gentleman from Georgia that I appreciate him trying to save some money. I think his efforts though are a year late.

If you want to look for Katrina fraud, look for the Katrina fraud that was perpetrated by the Bush administration.

In south Mississippi at one point we had 40,000 people living in FEMA trailers, we're grateful for every one of them. But those trailers were delivered by a friend of the president by the name of Riley Bechtel, a major contributor to Bush administration. He got $16,000 to haul a trailer the last 70 miles from Fergus, MS down to the Gulf Coast , hook it up to a garden hose, hook it up to a sewer tap, and plug it in, $16,000. So the gentleman never came to the floor once last year to talk about that fraud.

But now little towns like Waveland, Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, that have no tax base because their stores were destroyed in the storm, a county like Hancock County, where 90% of the residents lost everything, or at least substantial damage to their home, he wants to punish Bay St. Louis, he wants to punish Waveland, he wants to punish Pass Christian for mistakes of the Bush administration.

Mr. Price, I wish you'd have the decency, if you're going to do that to the people of south Mississippi, that maybe you ought to come visit south Mississippi, and see what has happened, before you hold them to a standard you would never hold your own people to, and that you fail to hold the Bush administration to.

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Rep. Gene Taylor (D-MS): In the course of the debate, I encouraged with words that were a little bit too strong, my colleague from Georgia to come visit the south of Mississippi and see the aftermath of Katrina. I used the word decency when I should have said "the courtesy," and If I offended his decency, then I apologize for that, but the offer stands.

The gentleman was good enough to admit privately that he has not visited the south of Mississippi since the storm, he has not seen town of Waveland is virtually gone, that Bay St. Louis is virtually gone, that Pass Christian. To the point of his amendment, how does a town that is gone come up with matching funds to restore itself?

I appreciate the gentleman yielding, and I hope I have made my point to the membership.

[Applause]

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